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Why all the Hipocritical Dog People?
I have two Dogue De Bordeaux’s (Turner and Hooch dog) that I plan to breed. I was just wondering why is it that everytime I see a question regarding a dogs pregnancy people seem to run them in the dirt, saying things like she should have been spayed in the first place, you’re a irresponsible dog owner, and my favorite, get her spayed if she lives through it. I know theres a lot of dogs at the shelter that need to be adopted but not everyone wants a normal old mutt from the pound, some people will not settle with nothing less than a pure breed, I’m actually one of those people. To clarify what I’m asking, why is it that all these people that claim to love dogs only suggest getting the dog spayed and neutered. If everyone in the world does what you all suggest that will only lead to extinction.
It’s because if you’re asking about breeding on here your an irresponsible idiot backyard breeding two dogs.
Reputable breeders that show, health test, have grantees and what not I have no problem at all with. Backyard breeders that are breeding their dogs and lack so much a clue that they need to asking about breeding on Yahoo Answers? Those people deserve the hell they get.
Aussie mum | Mar 01, 2009
because you’ll be contributing to this http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/35221 1196_b8477449d6.jpg?v=0
Canis Lupus Familiaris | Mar 01, 2009
I take no issue with responsible breeding. But the fact is that dog births outnumber human births 7 to 1 daily. We have a problem of mammoth proportion on our hands and millions of animals are killed because of it.
Whether you like it or not, spaying and neutering clearly does need to be pounded into people’s brains.
Jesse Rocks | Mar 01, 2009
i know what you mean….some people jsut like to be mean and rude when most of those people probably have dogs that aren’t spayed
princess:] | Mar 01, 2009
Ah Hah! The perfect reason not to spay and neuter. I KNEW one had to be out there.
Breeding should be done by professionals only. If you want to breed your dogs that is your decision but you should not be doing it without the mentoring of a professional who has been doing it for a number of years and knows the breed and what it takes to breed and whether your dogs are genetically good to be breeding them.
Otherwise, you are considered a backyard breeder. Sorry.
And it would take a heck of a lot longer than you think for the ‘dog’ to become extinct if all breeding was stopped right now. You would not see it in your lifetime.
Dancer | Mar 01, 2009
If you are seriously intending on breeding your dogs, I hope you also intend to show them (in either performance or conformation events), get the appropriate health clearances, get involved in your local breed club, and find yourself a good mentor. The reason people receive the answers they do here is because this is not the appropriate place to ask for breeding advice.
I have nothing against responsible breeding. My boy is in tact, has his clearances, has a few titles under his belt (with more to come), and may possibly be used as a stud somewhere down the line. But before I make that decision to breed him, I will do a lot of soul searching, make certain I am doing it for the right reasons. This is because I know that not even every titled dog with clearances is the best choice to breed. It’s all about taking responsibility for the pups you produce. If I decide to go through with it, I will get the appropriate guidance from someone who knows their stuff.
The people who are asking questions here have not gone through any of the steps outlined above. They want to breed their dog because they think it is cute, but haven’t the slightest clue how their dog measures up to the breed standard. They have often allowed their dog to be bred by a random dog up the street (either intentionally or by accident) and are now realizing they haven’t the slightest clue what to do. And then to top it all off, they are asking questions of anonymous people instead of their vet or another breeder. That, in my book, earns them exactly the types of responses they receive.
J&J381 | Mar 01, 2009
I have no problem with RESPONSIBLE breeders breeding their dogs. They are doing it to better their breed and they have a passion for it. It’s when people that have no idea what they’re doing go out and get two purebred dogs and decide to make a few bucks and have a litter of puppies, do i get upset. Working at a vet clinic and an animal shelter I see everyday the results of people irresponsibly breeding their animals. I hold these animals as they’re put to sleep just because there isn’t a home out there for them. Long story short, unless you are a professional and responsible breeder, get your pets fixed!
Elaina | Mar 01, 2009
We don’t want EVERY dog spayed or neutered but we also don’t want EVERY dog bred by people who don’t know any better. Proper breeding is more than female + male = puppies. MUTTS should never be intentionally bred, period. If you want a mutt you go adopt one you don’t go pay some breeder who’s only concern in the next sale.
If you want a purebred you got to a REPUTABLE breeder who has dedicated their lives to their breed of choice, not some petshop, or some person who read a couple books and websites and THINKS they know what they are doing.
Those same people who come here looking for help on breeding turn around come to US looking for help when their dog is in labor and needs help rather than calling a vet.
If any of these people spent at least two years with a breed mentor 80-90% would change their minds about breeding. Its be too much work, time, effort, and money for them to do it right. The other 10% would go on to be great breeders.
I mean hell the average person who wants to breed on this site doesn’t even know what OFA means.
I love dogs with all my heart and i refuse to help someone who is a part of the problem with the dog population currently. I refuse to help someone who is going to crush some poor family with their badly bred pup dies before it reaches its first birthday. I refuse to help someone who breeds "just because" That’s like having a kid "just because" Its irresponsible, selfish and cruel
Rayven-Fried Sea Kittens Anyone? | Mar 01, 2009
*Extinction?* I doubt it, when over 5 MILLION dogs are being euthanized EACH YEAR because of irresponsible breeding?
Chuckles | Mar 01, 2009
Personally I think people get fed up with irresponsible and indescriminate breeding which all too often results in dogs ending up unwanted in shelters. Personally I have no problem with anyone wishing to breed so long as they extensively research their breed, have all the health testing/checks done and are fully aware of all the problems breeding can bring and are breeding to ‘better the breed’ rather than just make money out of their dog.
Mum2Monsters | Mar 01, 2009
If they think the problem in america is bad, they should go to iraq. I swear there’s packs of dogs everywhere! Its nothing over here compared to there. We should be thankful we have dogs, not ravenous packs that roam the streets.
The Man | Mar 01, 2009
Well, if you think about it, every time someone gets on here and asks a question about how they can fit two dogs together to make more, we know they are the very people who shouldn’t be doing it.
Breeding dogs well, so it is both a service to the dogs as well as to their future families requires a lot of knowledge that one would only get from the people who have been responsible for the breed for years -and are willing to teach that person. You don’t learn any of that on Yahoo Answers.
If someone is here asking important things about breeding dogs, you know right away they are the ones who will make the next batch of dogs to hit the local shelter or breed erescue.
Let’s put it another way – it’s fine to be here and say, "I have a paper cut, what is the best thing I can put on it?" It’s not a good thing to ask how to take an appendix out.
Does that help?
Rosalie | Mar 01, 2009
I don’t disagree with breeding dogs as long as the dogs being bred will actually contribute something to further the betterment of their breed. To do that they must be excellent examples of their breed, and that can be proven through a champion title in the conformation show rings. They must be healthy and expected to pass on healthy pups. This is insured by having the potential sire and dam tested for all inherited diseases that can be tested for, at a minimum, hips, elbows, hearts and eyes. So if you do all of the above, feel free to breed and not be part of the problem that backyard breeders are accused of. You will be on the road to becoming a responsible breeder, which I hope you are.
Susan B | Mar 01, 2009
Extinction? You can’t be serious! I have adopted 3 purebred dogs for my local shelter. What health tests have your dogs had? Eyes? Hips? Won any CH? Been in a show ever?? You have a crappy example of a "purebred" and you want to breed more. Leave the breeding to responsible breeders and that obviously isn’t you.
mcally (Sea Kittens are Yummy!) | Mar 01, 2009
Fine…if the purebred is actually going to be well bred. Easy enough to stick two dogs of the same breed together, but are they two that are really worth passing their genes on?
And there are purebreds sitting in shelters…mostly poorly bred ones. The majority of people asking questions on here about breeding fall into this category. THAT is why people get so riled up.
KKingS | Mar 01, 2009
Unless you are a responsible breeder which includes health certificates, research of the pedigree including health problems. Showing and winning the dog in conformation. You should only breed to better the breed.
They are also responsible for assuring how the puppies are handled. Are you willing to take them back, will they be spay/neutered or allowed to breed to whatever.
If you don’t do these things then you are a BYB and contributing to the problem instead of a solution to the overpopulation of animals
Rotten Rotts | Mar 01, 2009
You are preaching to a pure bred Dachshund owner here. People are split between pure bred and the mutt ownership.It isn’t so much the production of pure bred pups that everyone objects to but the unknowledgeable breeder that has not done genetic testing and x-ray the hips before breeding. We do not need any more dogs brought into the world with hip displaysia.
doxie | Mar 01, 2009
Generally I agree that dogs and bitches should be neutered and spayed but thats because it stops unwanted pregnancies but if the owner’s going to be responsible and plan for the pregnancy there’s nothing wrong with that. Most people just don’t have what it takes to care for an unwanted litter of pups.
phillipa247 | Mar 01, 2009
because if you breed your dog only once there will be about 7-10 pups therefore 7-10 dogs in an animal shelter will die because the people will buy your dogs not adopt from a shelter, so its your decision to breed but 7-10 dogs will die because of your lack of education. and maybe even one of your dog’s pups will end up getting euthanized
Dannie | Mar 01, 2009
No, it’s ignorant people like you the reason why those dogs end up in the shelter, and DIE.
1 in 4 dogs in the shelter is purebred, so please, get your facts straight. There are purebred specific rescues, ect.
Every dog that’s in the shelter isn’t a mutt.
And spay/neutering all dogs cause extinction? Please! We have a SURPLUS of dogs.
And it’s not that dogs shouldn’t be bred at all, it’s just that your average, run-of-the mill, incompetent dog owners shouldn’t be breeding.
They are the reason dogs are dieing in shelters-because they’re ignorant, or greedy, or a combination of both.
Breeding, if done properly, does little, if any harm.
But how many people breed properly? How many people are doing it for profit? How many people are breeding because ‘puppies are cute’? Or because ‘their dog is great’? Or because ‘they want their children to experience the miracle of life’? Or because ‘they want to do it ONCE and then fix their dogs?’
It’s called the Tragedy of the Commons.
One person may think it, but what if we all thought ‘just one litter’, ‘I’m not doing any harm, I’ll find homes for the pups’. Then we have an issue. Then we have an overpopulation problem.
And what do you know?! OMG. Can it be true?! We DO have an overpopulation problem-responsible for the unnecessary deaths of millions of loving companion animals simply because there "aren’t enough homes." Bullshit. How is there not enough homes when people (like yourself, or like you plan to) continually churn out puppies.
Dog is my co-pilot | Mar 01, 2009
I certainly understand your point of view about purebreds, but when people spend the money for a purebred, don’t you think that they want to spend that money on one that is a good example of that breed, including appearence, function, type, and health? You see, it’s not about "not" breeding purebreds, it’s about breeding correctly and being responsible for what you breed. Are YOU willing to take back a dog that you bred, at anytime in its’ life? Are you will to screen potential buyers properly? Are you willing to do all the genetic testing for that breed, before breeding? There are so many things involved with breeding, not just taking 2 purebred dogs and putting them together. You also have to know the faults of your dog, and match it up with a dog that is outstanding in the areas that you are trying to correct. The whole thing is not about extinction, it’s about not over populating the dog world just to make a quick buck! This is one of the main reasons why dogs end up in shelters. It’s because the breeder doesn’t give a sh*t about "that" pup down the road….only what they can put in their wallet NOW.
julie d | Mar 01, 2009
Son you have just opened up a can of worms. I did rescue for several years and was called all sorts of names by people who bred dogs. Well organization I helped with rescue dissolved due to the leaders retiring and moving. Well I did some breeding of Dachshunds and boy did I catch it from the rescuers. You see there are more and more people jumping on the band wagon of certain groups for animal rights. Yes animals should have rights, no not all animals should be allowed to roam free either. I don’t believe in cock fighting, pit bull fighting, stabbing a bull at the bull fights. But I don’t see harm in fishing or hunting when you are using the catch as food and not as a sport. But some don’t want that to happen. Be a vegetarian they say. I say SORRY the good Lord made me a carnivore.
sizzlefox | Mar 01, 2009
I think the point is, if these people are not willing to put the time and money into their dogs, enough to make sure they are genetically healthy, than they should not be breeding. Also, they need to research pedigrees, and make sure it is a good match. Just because you have two Dogue De Bordeaux’s does not mean they are a genetic match for each other, assuming you have a male and female. Most people who come on here seeking help should have done their research before asking strangers, what do I need…..my dog is having puppies, HELP!!!! There are tons of books out there. And, tons of knowledgeable breeders willing to share their knowledge with people if they in turn are willing to be responsible breeders. But to get on here and say HELP, my neighbor’s dog got mine pregnant, NO, they should have been responsible and had the female fixed in the first place, then there would be no oops litter, and no pups that may well end up in a shelter. Responsible breeder take responsibility for the puppies they produce. If the puppy buyer changes his mind, or years later something happens, they can no longer keep the pup, it goes back to the breeder, therefore does not end up in shelters. Most people do not think twice about the puppies once they go to the new homes, and would never consider taking one back if the need arose. And breeding mutts is just plain stupid and very irresponsible. Especially if it is being done for $$$$. Breeding should be left to the professionals, then there would not be the overpopulation that there is. Most breeders I personally know produce 1, maybe 2 litters a year, if that. And, they put pet quality puppies on spay/neuter contracts, thus trying to help prevent overpopulation.
Acacia Rottz | Mar 01, 2009
I dont think dogs will go extinct is we stop breeding but anyways we have responsible breeders who breed as a hobby its there passion and not because they just want the money.There are so many dogs in shelters that are PUREBRED not only old mutts as you like to call them.So many people have that same mentality you hve and guess what when they breed and realize how hard it is to take care of the puppies and you have no home for each individual puppy to go to you will see why people make the comments they make.Because its those puppies that will end up in shelters
bubbalucie | Mar 01, 2009
I think the main reason is that there are so many backyard breeders out there that alot of folks assume that you may be one of them. I too am of the mindset that spaying and neutering is the best for the pet world. However, if the dog you want to breed is an excelent example of your chosen breed and is veterinary certified then I see no problem with the breeding. Furthermore as long as the sire is of the same or better qualtiy then I still do not see an issue with it.
I do hope that you are not wanting to do this as a money making venture. To be what most folks would consider a qualtiy breeder you will need to have the Bitch and Sire OFA certified, both should have blood work done to make sure that they are heartworm negtive and do not have any STDs (yes,the animal world has those too) when it is time to sell the pups they should have had their first vacctions and dewormings. You can start deworming @ 2 weeks and vaccines should NEVER be given before the pups are 6 weeks old. The puppies will be ready to home @ 6-8 weeks of age. If you have them after that you should keep up with the vaccines until they are sold. Please get the vaccines from your veterian as the ones from the feed store do not always work.
A good vaccine schedule is
6 wks DHPP and a fecal
9 wks Dhpp-cv, fecal if the first was postive
12 wks Dhlpp-cv or Dhpp-cv ( the L stands for lepto and should not be given to the smaller breed dogs as they tend to have a reaction to it.
15 wks Dhpp-cv +/- lepto and rabies vaccine.
This is a schdule that we used in the clinic I used to work at.
Judy W | Mar 01, 2009
because i’m tired of having to clean up after other people when they realize they DON’T have (because they didn’t line them up before breeding) homes for all their pups, so they get dumped and i pick them up.
or people who thought they wanted a cute little puppums, but when it get bigger and not so cute anymore they dump them for me to pick up. usually because the "breeder" didn’t research and make sure they were finding good homes or they didn’t have a return clause in their purchase agreement.
Isis Is: THANKS! RESCUE INK! | Mar 01, 2009
If you know there is a demand for your dogs, and you have their paperwork together regarding thier lineage, go for it. It’s a really big, big job. I created a folder for the one time I bred my champion line Golden Retrievers. You have to keep meticulous records of medical procedures (shots, dew claws, etc.) I included feeding tips, and information on the first days with puppy.
You’ll need a welping box and lots of shredded newspaper or pine chips. It’s important that each puppy be carefully monitored, the more aggressive pups push the sweetie pie out of the way during feedings. Also, any responsible breeder socializes the pups. Spend time with each and every one so they get into humans. Bring kids around if you can…this is important. Also if your dog is a working dog…I don’t know…but our Retrievers were, potentially, and we had to get them used to feathers and being gentle with the feathers, etc.
Be wary of Parvo…it must’ve been a bigger deal back when we bred because we had to wipe our feet with bleach and all guests had to do the same. Shots and immunizations don’t kick in immediately.
Anyway, best of luck!
cleosgirl2345 | Mar 01, 2009
You have angered numerous people who feel strongly about cutting back on the irresponsible breeding and the needless euthanizing of perfectly good dogs. People are very shallow if they will pass up a perfectly good dog in a shelter and pay thousands of dollars just so they can say their dog is a purebred. A purebred is nothing but a mutt. All "purebreds" are created by mixing a bunch of dogs to get what you want and then continually breeding in different parts.
I personally have owned purebreds and mutts the mix breeds are equally as good as those from a breeder. Its all personal preference but eliminating yard breeders, pet stores, and puppy Mill you would be save countless dogs from death, abuse, and homelessness. If you have to ask a question on a website you are no a reputable breeder and obviously have no experience and their fore should not be breeding. Spaying and neutering saves lives by protecting accidental litters, and keeps roaming down. You clearly do not and will not ever understand how the pro-sparying and neutering people feel and you probably don’t care, so why even ask?
LIL JAX | Mar 01, 2009
Jason, it does not matter what category you are in, there are certain questions that people feel deeply about, so ask any question on that subject and you will get many strongly worded answers.
I am not sure if this will actually help the situation, as I believe most people read the first few answers, then refuse to read anymore, so you have lost any opportunity to teach them and maybe make them think, they are more likely to get their back up and do it in sheer spite.
There are so many stupid breeding questions on this site that it is disheartening. The one questioner I will never forget, and I think says it all is:
Question 1. My b*tch is pregnant, how long before she gives birth
Question 2. My b*tch is in labour, what do I do
Question 3. My b”tch died in labour, how do I raise the puppies.
I swear the above questions are true, though this is a shortened version. A BYB who did not know what he was doing, could obviously not afford to see a vet and the poor b*tch paid the price for his selfishness.
On the other hand, we need to keep the gene pool open on breeds of dogs, so if you have two great dogs that have good genes, good temperament and some other breeders would like some of your pups to use in their own breeding programs, then do the homework, have the emergency money fund put aside, do the best you can. Use your intelligence, breed only every 18 months, as too many dogs of the same gene pool doesn’t help anything, it is a hobby, not a source of income.
christine sss | Mar 01, 2009
i agree with every body else.
Nicolas C | Mar 02, 2009
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